I guess Bill Hybels had a beef with the video because of Mark’s perpective on women in ministry. I too find Scriptural support for girls to be pastors or even Apostles. Nonetheless, Mark Driscoll brings home a message to men on church planting in my kind of language. He makes me want to go fight someone. Mark is leading the way, drawing people to the central message of Jesus in a city where God is largely unrecognized.
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That was an excellent, well-produced, and eye-opening video !
Churches are unfortunately struggling and dying nationwide, and ‘Christians’ and actual church-goers are dwindling in numbers. He states that by 2050 there may be about half as many Christians in the U.S. as there are now. But he’s got a solution to reversing these very negative trends, and I tend to agree with him.
There are way too many young guys (and gals) in their 20s that have no sensible direction in life. They are into all of the wrong things. These are our future leaders. They need to be recruited and guided in the right direction, and we need to figure out how to get them interested and excited about it.
I wish that I had the type of direction 20 years ago that I do today at the age of 40 (minus 1 month), but I suppose that ‘better late than never’ applies for me. It took me two decades to figure out how to get on this journey.
Hey Travis, Nice blog man.
I think the issue I had with the video was a lack of balance. I love MD passion for men and ministry-but I just wish he would create a better culture to say his message.
I wonder how the ladies felt about the video that attended the conference?
Chris, thanks. Here’s my view:
Mark is a complementarian. His theological view would not allow him to take a more balanced approach. How could he encourage women in ministry if he has come to a Scriptural conclusion that women cannot be pastors?
I have come to the exact opposite conclusion. Regardless, I listen to Mark and hear the passion, the value, the message, and the voice for Jesus he has in Seattle and to church planters all over.
I’m a continuationist. I get excited about the message of Jesus being preached and the call to “go” even when in that same message, the idea that the Holy Spirit has ceased to move in the way He did after the ascension of Jesus.
Healing is not essential to the core message of Jesus. So, I shuffle it off and thank God that He speaks so forcefully through people that are different than me.
Well, I wasn’t at the conference, but I’ve watched the video. As a woman who’s called to church planting, of course I’m disappointed by Mark’s stance that women cannot serve in that capacity… but I’m not offended at all by his deeply-held conviction on the matter. It doesn’t affect me in any way. Why worry about it?
Aside from the male/female issue, his comments were excellent, informative, helpful and relevant. For the conference staff to exclude the video based on something like that is, IMHO, sad. Perhaps they should have preceded it with a brief explanation of Mark’s beliefs and shared that his convictions aren’t everyone’s…
First, let me say to Kathi that I could not agree with you more, and your attitude and approach to what Mark says is great, and I commend you for it.
As for the video itself, putting aside the whole male/female thing, what he shares is just excellent. I think you can take the information he shares and use it in our established churches in building a solid ministry as well. Thanks for linking this Travis, I would have missed it otherwise. Good stuff!